Would be interested to hear how much this is costing and where the money is coming from, given the ongoing cuts across the council (in areas arguably more important than sticking a few 20 signs up) and the news this week that the NEC is having to be sold in order to settle the equal pay claim.
As announced last year at the start of public consultation - the estimated cost is £7m, but the over-riding aim is to improve road safety for everyone. It is also worth noting that the cost of road accidents is estimated at £5m every year in Birmingham (insurance claims, health care, repairs to transport network etc).
When public consultation starterd, we were also clear the funding would come from the council’s recently-successful bid to the Government’s Cycle City Ambition Grant scheme and other sources already allocated for transport improvements, so will not impact on other services the council provides.
Would improving and providing proper cycling infrastructure not be a better use of that funding, rather than simply making driving appear less attractive (though in practice 20mph is wishful thinking in any urban area for much of the day) and hope that will lead to more people cycling?
So 58% of respondents were against the policy but it is going ahead anyway. Some people would call this leadership but all it does is to ferment ill feeling. Politicians wonder why the public aren’t interested in politics and hold the view that “they don’t listen to us”. Remember 58% !
This is the first I have heard of this proposal so the consultation appears to be very selective and not advertised. Hopefully it will prove unworkable.
If you want voters to be involved in politics you have to listen to them and 58% seems a lot to me. I hope the 58% remember being ignored in the May elections.
Buses sticking to the speed limit? That’ll be a first! If buses will no longer be able to do 40mph as they do in the existing 30mph limits, journey times will definitely be increased. Also, can’t see anything in the proposals to say how the new limits would be enforced. K Yardley has a point - what was the point of the consultation if the result is ignored? What happened to democracy?
Another good reason to change the cities logo from ‘FORWARD’ to ‘BACKWARD’.
Whatever would the city forefathers have thought? 80 years and still the Outer Ring Road not finished, nuff said!
Why don`t the council and the police do something really helpful and enforce the current 30mph limit? If they cannot do this what possible use will an ever lower limit of 20mph be? As I type this yet another car has come down Tessall Lane in Northfield at a warp factor speed. Simply hanging up 20mph speed limit signs will change nothing!!! Question: if we all kept to 30mph how many fatalities would it save? If you want to slow traffic down enforce existing limits not introduce new futile limits that few will take note of.
Would be interested to hear how much this is costing and where the money is coming from, given the ongoing cuts across the council (in areas arguably more important than sticking a few 20 signs up) and the news this week that the NEC is having to be sold in order to settle the equal pay claim.
Hi there,
As announced last year at the start of public consultation - the estimated cost is £7m, but the over-riding aim is to improve road safety for everyone. It is also worth noting that the cost of road accidents is estimated at £5m every year in Birmingham (insurance claims, health care, repairs to transport network etc).
When public consultation starterd, we were also clear the funding would come from the council’s recently-successful bid to the Government’s Cycle City Ambition Grant scheme and other sources already allocated for transport improvements, so will not impact on other services the council provides.
Would improving and providing proper cycling infrastructure not be a better use of that funding, rather than simply making driving appear less attractive (though in practice 20mph is wishful thinking in any urban area for much of the day) and hope that will lead to more people cycling?
So 58% of respondents were against the policy but it is going ahead anyway. Some people would call this leadership but all it does is to ferment ill feeling. Politicians wonder why the public aren’t interested in politics and hold the view that “they don’t listen to us”. Remember 58% !
This is the first I have heard of this proposal so the consultation appears to be very selective and not advertised. Hopefully it will prove unworkable.
If you want voters to be involved in politics you have to listen to them and 58% seems a lot to me. I hope the 58% remember being ignored in the May elections.
Buses sticking to the speed limit? That’ll be a first! If buses will no longer be able to do 40mph as they do in the existing 30mph limits, journey times will definitely be increased. Also, can’t see anything in the proposals to say how the new limits would be enforced. K Yardley has a point - what was the point of the consultation if the result is ignored? What happened to democracy?
Another good reason to change the cities logo from ‘FORWARD’ to ‘BACKWARD’.
Whatever would the city forefathers have thought? 80 years and still the Outer Ring Road not finished, nuff said!
Why don`t the council and the police do something really helpful and enforce the current 30mph limit? If they cannot do this what possible use will an ever lower limit of 20mph be? As I type this yet another car has come down Tessall Lane in Northfield at a warp factor speed. Simply hanging up 20mph speed limit signs will change nothing!!! Question: if we all kept to 30mph how many fatalities would it save? If you want to slow traffic down enforce existing limits not introduce new futile limits that few will take note of.